Behavioral Science in Product Design

Futurist Trond Arne Undheim interviews Matt Wallaert, behavioral scientist and author of Start At The End: How To Build Products that Create Change.

In this conversation, they talk about how the field of product design has evolved, the value of experimentation, discovery of cutting edge products, who does it well, corporations and startups, and how the future of product design is steeped in science.

The takeaway is that behavioral science should be an obligatory part of product design and it cannot be an afterthought. Right now, most companies are overweight on data scientists and underweight on behavioral scientists, even though they are both needed in equal measure for a product to succeed.

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